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Abuse in Off-Topic

by Ragnar » Thu May 30, 2013 13:57

http://www.webopedia.com/ wrote:In online forums an off-topic discussion area may be available to users. This area of the forum is designated for general chat and posting of messages that may be different than the general topic focus of the forum. For example, on an electronic commerce forum there may be a designated thread or section where users can post messages not related to electronic commerce.

My question:
Why do my off-topic posts get removed? Minetest's* Off topic is for stuff non-related to Minetest, so what am i doing wrong that others aren't?
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by PilzAdam » Thu May 30, 2013 14:02

The forum rules also apply to the Offtopic forum, so topics may be taken down if they violate them.
 
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by Ragnar » Thu May 30, 2013 14:04

How did i violate any rules by:
Suggesting a free Android game to others;
Asking for others Skype names, if they are interested in playing it with me.
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by Ragnar » Thu May 30, 2013 14:40

See now?
Nobody has yet proven me wrong!
That means that I was right!
I know i haven't violated ANY rules, but still only MINE get deleted!
I promise, that if ANYBODY messes with me for no reason ONE MORE TIME, i will make the whole minetest website crash!
I'm not going to say how, but i am warning you...
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by kaeza » Thu May 30, 2013 14:44

lol
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by Ragnar » Thu May 30, 2013 14:45

The Rulebook wrote:By registering, you agree to act suitably (like on any other forum; e.g. not posting illegal content (according to the Finnish and German law) or pornography, no flooding, no spamming, no viruses and such) and acknowledge that the moderators can ban you for not doing so, or for any other reason.

Graphical smileys are disallowed. Animated avatars are disallowed.

If you are underage, ask your parents whether registering is legal in your country.

In any event you are responsible for your posts, and the other users are responsible for their posts, not the operators of this forum.

You also agree that this forum can be moved to a different host and a different country (might be needed if the traffic increases a lot), including the user account data.

The language of this forum is english, except for the "other languages" section.

These conditions may change in the future without notice.

I don't see anything about promoting games/programs etc. being not allowed;
I also don't see asking for people's skype names, or any kind of service usernames in this case, being not allowed.
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by PilzAdam » Thu May 30, 2013 14:46

What about spam?
 
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by Ragnar » Thu May 30, 2013 14:47

And how, my dear sir, did i spam, what did i spam, and do you have proof or me spamming?
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by PilzAdam » Thu May 30, 2013 14:48

Ragnar wrote:And how, my dear sir, did i spam, what did i spam, and do you have proof or me spamming?

Ragnar wrote:promoting games/programs etc.
asking for people's skype names
 
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by Ragnar » Thu May 30, 2013 14:49

And how is that spam?
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by Ragnar » Thu May 30, 2013 14:51

http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4461
Promoting games that are similar to Minetest
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by PilzAdam » Thu May 30, 2013 14:52

How is an MMORPG similiar to Minetest?
 
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by kaeza » Thu May 30, 2013 14:52

Ragnar wrote:http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4461
Promoting games that are similar to Minetest

That topic does not ask for E-Mails, Skype, or other info.
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by Ragnar » Thu May 30, 2013 14:53

PilzAdam wrote:How is an MMORPG similiar to Minetest?

I posted it in Off-Topic... It doesnt have to be =)
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by Ragnar » Thu May 30, 2013 14:58

kaeza wrote:
Ragnar wrote:http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4461
Promoting games that are similar to Minetest

That topic does not ask for E-Mails, Skype, or other info.

http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=525
Asking for LOCATIONS...
You can have multiple accounts, but it isnt the same with homes...
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by PilzAdam » Thu May 30, 2013 14:59

Ragnar wrote:
kaeza wrote:
Ragnar wrote:http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4461
Promoting games that are similar to Minetest

That topic does not ask for E-Mails, Skype, or other info.

http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=525
Asking for LOCATIONS...
You can have multiple accounts, but it isnt the same with homes...

Changing home is easier than deleting something from the internet.
 
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by Zeg9 » Thu May 30, 2013 15:10

Ragnar wrote:I know i haven't violated ANY rules

If you say it...
Ragnar wrote:I promise, that if ANYBODY messes with me for no reason ONE MORE TIME, i will make the whole minetest website crash!

I wonder threatening is part of the rules :P
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by Ragnar » Thu May 30, 2013 15:16

Zeg9 wrote:
Ragnar wrote:I know i haven't violated ANY rules

If you say it...
Ragnar wrote:I promise, that if ANYBODY messes with me for no reason ONE MORE TIME, i will make the whole minetest website crash!

I wonder threatening is part of the rules :P

Where is that writen? .-.
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by Ragnar » Thu May 30, 2013 15:20

PilzAdam wrote:
Ragnar wrote:
kaeza wrote:That topic does not ask for E-Mails, Skype, or other info.

http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=525
Asking for LOCATIONS...
You can have multiple accounts, but it isnt the same with homes...

Changing home is easier than deleting something from the internet.

It may be hard, but not impossible.
Its much harder to find a new home.
You can always:
Delete un-needed accounts
Delete un-needed blogs/websites
#Facebook:
Set permissions on who can access certain information...
PilzAdam wrote:Changing home is easier than deleting something from the internet...

I beg the differ...
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by BorisGrishenko » Thu May 30, 2013 15:33

1.Suggesting Games and or Advertising in some way might bring people to harmful viruses that might be hidden in the codes, the internet can't be really trusted.
2.Asking Skype names is like telling people to give away their personal information, even its the sake for entertainment. Its still very risky, even how many people trust you.
3.THREATENING THE SITE TO CRASH is much more of an offense and you nearly crossed the line.
Ragnar wrote:See now?
Nobody has yet proven me wrong!
That means that I was right!
I know i haven't violated ANY rules, but still only MINE get deleted!
I promise, that if ANYBODY messes with me for no reason ONE MORE TIME, i will make the whole minetest website crash!
I'm not going to say how, but i am warning you...
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by BorisGrishenko » Thu May 30, 2013 15:34

Not all of the rules are stated in the Rulebook and it CAN CHANGE WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE.
Ragnar wrote:
Zeg9 wrote:
Ragnar wrote:I know i haven't violated ANY rules

If you say it...
Ragnar wrote:I promise, that if ANYBODY messes with me for no reason ONE MORE TIME, i will make the whole minetest website crash!

I wonder threatening is part of the rules :P

Where is that writen? .-.
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by onpon4 » Thu May 30, 2013 15:57

Just posting randomly about some game that is completely irrelevant sounds like spam to me. I don't go around posting topics about Xonotic or MegaGlest. If I did, it would make perfect sense if these topics got deleted.

Skype is a bad service to be dependent on. It uses solely non-standard protocols instead of perfectly good open standards, which means only Skype users can talk to Skype users. This attack on interoperability is a strategic decision by Microsoft. In any case, asking people who do have a Skype account for their Skype username is a lot more personal than asking what country people live in. Unless your answer is Vatican City, it doesn't say much about your identity or even location. A Skype username is a lot more like a phone number than what country you live in (the main difference being that phones are interoperable).
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by Ragnar » Thu May 30, 2013 21:41

1.Suggesting Games and or Advertising in some way might bring people to harmful viruses that might be hidden in the codes, the internet can't be really trusted.
Its on the Google Play store, so i doubt it has malware and/or viruses...

2.Asking Skype names is like telling people to give away their personal information, even its the sake for entertainment. Its still very risky, even how many people trust you.
Don't understand your statement...


3.THREATENING THE SITE TO CRASH is much more of an offense and you nearly crossed the line.
Its a threat. A threat may or may not take place.
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by Ragnar » Thu May 30, 2013 21:43

onpon4 wrote:Just posting randomly about some game that is completely irrelevant sounds like spam to me. I don't go around posting topics about Xonotic or MegaGlest. If I did, it would make perfect sense if these topics got deleted.

Skype is a bad service to be dependent on. It uses solely non-standard protocols instead of perfectly good open standards, which means only Skype users can talk to Skype users. This attack on interoperability is a strategic decision by Microsoft. In any case, asking people who do have a Skype account for their Skype username is a lot more personal than asking what country people live in. Unless your answer is Vatican City, it doesn't say much about your identity or even location. A Skype username is a lot more like a phone number than what country you live in (the main difference being that phones are interoperable).

Skype uses peer2peer... I know that, cause Skype was made here, in Estonia...
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by onpon4 » Thu May 30, 2013 22:24

Ragnar wrote:Skype uses peer2peer... I know that, cause Skype was made here, in Estonia...


Actually, it can use both peer-to-peer and a client-server model, but how does that have anything to do with what I said? I said that the protocol it uses is nonstandard, and that applies to the protocol it uses for peer-to-peer communication, too.
 
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by Ragnar » Thu May 30, 2013 22:30

onpon4 wrote:
Ragnar wrote:Skype uses peer2peer... I know that, cause Skype was made here, in Estonia...


Actually, it can use both peer-to-peer and a client-server model, but how does that have anything to do with what I said? I said that the protocol it uses is nonstandard, and that applies to the protocol it uses for peer-to-peer communication, too.

isn't p2p a protocol?
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by onpon4 » Thu May 30, 2013 22:35

Ragnar wrote:isn't p2p a protocol?


No. Peer-to-peer just describes a general method of data transmission: from and to equal peers rather than a master server. Torrents are an example of something that uses peer-to-peer networking.
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