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Sam II:

by Jordach » Mon Jul 01, 2013 19:34

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Can I get consensus on that people want Sam II merged into minetest_game?

This is a completely REDONE player skin, cleaned up and removed the
noise that persisted from the original texture. This commit makes Sam
look far more improved than before, not to mention the shading isn't so
powerful and over the top.

Noteworthy Differences:

- Sam's eyes are no longer look like Sam is drunk, sniffed coal coke, etc..
- Sam has been considerably smoothed and less noisy.

Sam I:
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Sam II:
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(From: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/184 )

Jordach wrote:Because I really never finished off the default skin, I forgot the shading in a rush to get @MirceaKitsune's patch merged into master.

This time I added some highlights to the hair and body shading, this makes the 3D player much more realistic and better looking.
(From: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/84 )

Poll note: I should have said: Should this pull be merged?
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by Topywo » Mon Jul 01, 2013 19:57

Jordach wrote:- Sam's eyes are no longer look like Sam is drunk, sniffed coal coke, etc..


Ouch, now i can never look unprejudiced/open minded at Sam I again.

Sam II looks like Sam I his son.
 

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by Jordach » Mon Jul 01, 2013 19:59

Topywo wrote:
Jordach wrote:- Sam's eyes are no longer look like Sam is drunk, sniffed coal coke, etc..


Ouch, now i can never look unprejudiced/open minded at Sam I again.

Sam II looks like Sam I his son.
The Brits named their Kings / Queens like George I, George II, which were unrelated.

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EDIT: The eyes looked good when I first drew the skin, I literally forgot to fix the eyes, which plagued my first skins.
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by nomohakon » Mon Jul 01, 2013 20:39

What is that brown thing on his head, a helmet?
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by Dan Duncombe » Mon Jul 01, 2013 20:44

I think it is his hair.
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by Jordach » Mon Jul 01, 2013 20:57

Dan Duncombe wrote:I think it is his hair.
nomohakon wrote:What is that brown thing on his head, a helmet?
It is Sam's hair.

EDIT: Sam doesn't look so pale anymore, Sam II does look better.
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by kaeza » Mon Jul 01, 2013 21:36

Voted "YES!" because Sam II looks more gender-neutral (which was one of the motives behind naming him "Sam" in the first place).
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by VanessaE » Mon Jul 01, 2013 22:43

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by Josh » Tue Jul 02, 2013 02:54

Great job on doing Sam II, he look's alot more natural, he does not look like he has not shaven in years, or does not have a hangover.
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by Jordach » Tue Jul 02, 2013 06:48

kaeza wrote:Voted "YES!" because Sam II looks more gender-neutral (which was one of the motives behind naming him "Sam" in the first place).
Thanks.
Josh wrote:Great job on doing Sam II, he look's alot more natural, he does not look like he has not shaven in years, or does not have a hangover.
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Yeah! I also noticed the first Sam skin fix was minetest_game pull 84, Sam II is 184.

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by paramat » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:27

Ha you have a spaceman sam!
Yeah looks better but i'm not keen on the 3D hair as i would prefer simplicity for sake of game performance.
I always found Sam's longish floppy emo hair was a good choice for a unisex skin.
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by Jordach » Tue Jul 02, 2013 15:27

paramat wrote:Ha you have a spaceman sam!
Yeah looks better but i'm not keen on the 3D hair as i would prefer simplicity for sake of game performance.
I always found Sam's longish floppy emo hair was a good choice for a unisex skin.
Heh, well Boys and Girls can have curly hair, so the hat layer being used makes it so and gives the player futher unisex styling.

Also, I resemble Sam II: http://imgur.com/a/ckQtr

EDIT: I can't change the title of the poll; so this was supposed to be a question about replacing the current Sam skin, with a more modern and clean design. (NO, NOT WINDOWS 8!!)
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by Inocudom » Tue Jul 02, 2013 16:22

I have an idea. I think it would be nice if the whole body had a layer similar to the hat layer for beards and clothing.
 

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by Jordach » Tue Jul 02, 2013 16:30

Inocudom wrote:I have an idea. I think it would be nice if the whole body had a layer similar to the hat layer for beards and clothing.
Hm, yeah, and easy to do in blender. But it then breaks compatibility with out MC skins.

Although, it as stu has said: multiple material lists would help, as clothes could be a second layer, waiting to be used and assigned by the engine.
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by Inocudom » Tue Jul 02, 2013 16:42

Jordach wrote:
Inocudom wrote:I have an idea. I think it would be nice if the whole body had a layer similar to the hat layer for beards and clothing.
Hm, yeah, and easy to do in blender. But it then breaks compatibility with out MC skins.

Although, it as stu has said: multiple material lists would help, as clothes could be a second layer, waiting to be used and assigned by the engine.


Minecraft skins could use the system that is in place now as far as clothing goes and new skins could use an above layer for clothing (and old skins could be made to use the above layer as well.)
 

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by Casimir » Tue Jul 02, 2013 17:47

Why not use the blue guy? The colours look reserved and calm.
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by Jordach » Tue Jul 02, 2013 17:54

Casimir wrote:Why not use the blue guy? The colours look reserved and calm.
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That is Sam II recoloured to look like myself, see: http://imgur.com/a/ckQtr

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by paramat » Tue Jul 02, 2013 19:59

I had the urge to make a kawaii Sam face.


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by Jordach » Tue Jul 02, 2013 20:01

paramat wrote:I had the urge to make a kawaii Sam face.


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To be fair, we actually need official Minetest artwork.]

And this is nice. (We need more than just wallpapers and my renders.)

EDIT; It appears that Sam II has had a considerable amount of good press. Keep it up! (If you're feeling lucky punk, you can request skins.)
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by Linxx » Tue Jul 02, 2013 21:04

Jordach wrote:
paramat wrote:I had the urge to make a kawaii Sam face.


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To be fair, we actually need official Minetest artwork.]

And this is nice. (We need more than just wallpapers and my renders.)

EDIT; It appears that Sam II has had a considerable amount of good press. Keep it up! (If you're feeling lucky punk, you can request skins.)

I've been thinking about doing artwork but i don't know what to use to start.I started doing some sketches for possible mobs but I don't know if i should post them....
 

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by Jordach » Wed Jul 03, 2013 05:57

Linxx wrote:
Jordach wrote:
paramat wrote:I had the urge to make a kawaii Sam face.


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To be fair, we actually need official Minetest artwork.]

And this is nice. (We need more than just wallpapers and my renders.)

EDIT; It appears that Sam II has had a considerable amount of good press. Keep it up! (If you're feeling lucky punk, you can request skins.)

I've been thinking about doing artwork but i don't know what to use to start.I started doing some sketches for possible mobs but I don't know if i should post them....
Post em in off topic, I will try to make them in blender.

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by Linxx » Wed Jul 03, 2013 09:00

Jordach wrote:
Linxx wrote:
Jordach wrote:To be fair, we actually need official Minetest artwork.]

And this is nice. (We need more than just wallpapers and my renders.)

EDIT; It appears that Sam II has had a considerable amount of good press. Keep it up! (If you're feeling lucky punk, you can request skins.)

I've been thinking about doing artwork but i don't know what to use to start.I started doing some sketches for possible mobs but I don't know if i should post them....
Post em in off topic, I will try to make them in blender.
2 problems they're handrawn and i don't have good cameras so the quality is going to suck
 

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by Jordach » Wed Jul 03, 2013 15:05

Linxx wrote:
Jordach wrote:
Linxx wrote:I've been thinking about doing artwork but i don't know what to use to start.I started doing some sketches for possible mobs but I don't know if i should post them....
Post em in off topic, I will try to make them in blender.
2 problems they're handrawn and i don't have good cameras so the quality is going to suck
I'm quite happy to use GIMP to fix the issues.

Anyways, back to the topic.
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by Neuromancer » Fri Jul 05, 2013 03:08

Sam II is a massive upgrade. Thanks for doing this!
 

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by Chinchow » Sat Jul 20, 2013 04:26

Sam II is better than Sam I. He has a nicer shirt, his pants and shoes are less faded he has a nicer less matted hair cut and his mouth isn't nearly hanging off his face.
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by Casimir » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:52

SamII looks much better than before, so why is it not merged yet?
 

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by Jordach » Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:32

Casimir wrote:SamII looks much better than before, so why is it not merged yet?
PilzAdam won't merge unless he specifically wants it in the repos. He works for himself; and not to the community -- which is against the open source principle of contributing.

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by nolan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:09

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by Jordach » Sat Jul 20, 2013 16:04

Can I get consensus on that people want Sam II merged into minetest_game?

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by Dan Duncombe » Sat Jul 20, 2013 16:09

YES!
Jordach wrote:Can I get consensus on that people want Sam II merged into minetest_game?
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